The EU has much more to lose without a trade deal with Britain, so as far as common sense goes, it is unlikely that there will be no agreement between them - said Alexander Downer the longest serving foreign minister in Australian history, currently working as the high commissioner to London. The waves of refugees sailing across the English Channel are still a problem to be faced, but it could be solved by changing the laws people smugglers are taking an advantage of, so it is only a matter a determination and taking a strong stance against illegal immigration. The latest episode on the Danube Dialogues hosted by John O’Sullivan, the president of Danube Institute. His guest was Alexander Downer.